tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29863362.post1883798521681392920..comments2013-08-09T05:41:04.752-07:00Comments on Kirby Dots and Ditko Ribbons: Breeding ContemptYour Obedient Serpenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07133256640355844314noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29863362.post-65808521717766056982013-08-09T05:41:04.752-07:002013-08-09T05:41:04.752-07:00Personally, I still fail to see an inherent issue ...Personally, I still fail to see an inherent issue with recurring villains. If they cannot be used to tell fresh stories, that's on the writer, not on the character.<br /><br />Honest to god, I've got about a dozen ideas for the likes of Joker, Two-Face, Riddler, and Penguin that haven't been used in a single comic I've read. Writers just want to keep going for the low-hanging fruit, and that's not going to change even if they do bring in new villains. It'll just be the same old stuff wrapped in a new skin.springhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09178014930194863581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29863362.post-42402021766576281332010-07-11T17:13:43.817-07:002010-07-11T17:13:43.817-07:00Still, in Batman's corner of the 'verse, t...Still, in Batman's corner of the 'verse, the transition hasn't really been away from "gangsters" and toward "supervillains".<br /><br />It's been a two-fold transition:<br />* The once-disposable "thugs" and "gangsters" who were thwarted, defeated soundly, and imprisoned have given way to Crime Lords like Rupert Thorne, who are never brought to justice.<br />* Many former "supervillains" <i>become</i> gangsters, and thereby gained the same Untouchable status. As I mentioned last week, that kinda works with Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepott, whose gimmick has traditionally been Batman's Smart, Sane Adversary, but not so much with a Two-Face.Your Obedient Serpenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07133256640355844314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29863362.post-80862139730763337242010-07-11T07:20:54.128-07:002010-07-11T07:20:54.128-07:00Thugs and Gangsters are certainly a more realistic...Thugs and Gangsters are certainly a more realistic sort of threat...something that can actually be encountered by someone in the REAL world, as opposed to Alien invasions every other Thursday. Maybe that's why they've fallen out of favor...in the need to find something with more "oomph". <br /><br />But still...when you overuse ANY character, he or she becomes too familiar, be it Slade or Wolverine or the Joker. I like the Joker, but I have to admit I'm a little tired of him.<br /><br />You know what villain I loved? Carface, from Birds of Prey. He had these adorable little windshield wipers for his eyebrows. Granted, he was pretty pathetic, and Huntress bagged him with EASE...but he was nevertheless a lot of fun.SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29863362.post-82892862847627755312010-07-10T19:03:54.620-07:002010-07-10T19:03:54.620-07:00It's not just villains, either. DC's killi...It's not just villains, either. DC's killing off new heroes to bring back old ones, and what is <i>Rise of Arsenal</i> but running poor Roy through well-worn paces?<br /><br />That's why I call this "The Aluminum Age": everything is recycled.<br /><br />(Some of the recycled stuff is <i>great</i>, mind you. But it still holds.)<br /><br />Batman used to be all ABOUT the thugs and fedora'd gangsters. And he'd actually <i>beat</i> them. Now, instead of Fedora Mook of the Month, we get Yet Another Rupert Thorne story.Your Obedient Serpenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07133256640355844314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29863362.post-74163327167629699712010-07-10T08:02:21.275-07:002010-07-10T08:02:21.275-07:00That's a very valid point. It seems as though...That's a very valid point. It seems as though all we have lately is recycled villains, instead of NEW threats. Granted, not all of them are going to be winners, but what the heck, at least it is something fresh. <br /><br />Fresh however, is not something that is particularly associated with comic books. What ever happened to just plain thugs? I LIKE thugs!SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.com